425: Presidio Production Eyes Public Debut via DeSPAC
DeSPAC Fireside Chat Transcript
Presidio PubCo Inc. and EQV Ventures discuss their upcoming DeSPAC transaction, highlighting a pure PDP optimization strategy, strong financing, and a fixed annual dividend.
Summary
- The DeSPAC transaction between Presidio (PIH) and EQV Ventures is in process, with an anticipated completion by year-end 2025 or potentially January 2026, pending SEC review.
- Presidio's business model, established in 2017, focuses on cash flow optimization through acquiring and optimizing existing oil and gas assets (Proved Developed Producing PDP) without drilling new wells.
- EQV Ventures is contributing existing assets and rolling all equity into the combined public entity, ensuring alignment with Presidio's vision.
- John Brawley joined Presidio as CFO in May 2025, bringing extensive experience from Maverick Natural Resources, a PDP-focused company he helped sell for $1.3 billion.
- A preliminary S-4 registration statement has been filed with the SEC, with the most recent updated version filed on Friday, October 3, 2025.
- The deal is structured as fully funded with over $200 million of committed equity capital, designed to close even in a high trust redemption scenario.
- Key investors in the PIPE include JPM Investment Management ($125 million), an oil and gas major, and several other long-only investors.
- Citizens Bank is providing a Reserve-Based Lending (RBL) facility, which is expected to grow and be available for future acquisitions.
- The pro forma company is expected to have $859 million in Proved Developed PV-10, $116 million in EBITDA, and 24,000 BOE per day of production from approximately 2000 wells.
- The commodity mix is balanced, with approximately 50% dry natural gas, 35% natural gas liquids, and 15% oil.
- Presidio employs a unique '100% PDP optimization strategy' that avoids reinvestment risk and capital expenditure requirements associated with new development.
- The company focuses on expanding margins, cutting costs, and enhancing production by empowering field staff with data, analytics, dashboards, and AI tools for real-time decision-making.
- A low 3% capital reinvestment rate is allocated to vertically integrating services, such as acquiring compression units, which yield approximately 40% returns.
- A stable, fixed annual dividend of $1.35 is planned, with high confidence in its maintenance through 2027, supported by the company's hedge and decline profiles.
- The hedging strategy involves being 75% hedged for the first three years and 50% for years three to five, covering individual products (NGLs, basis) to protect near-term cash flow and dividend stability.
- Presidio identifies a significant M&A opportunity, with a $1.4 billion active backlog and a broader $75 billion market of assets held by private equity firms looking to divest.
- Projected M&A activity includes $200 million in year one, $300 million in year two, and $400 million in year three as a public company, which could increase the dividend to $2.77.
- The geographic focus for M&A is the Mid-Continent region, including Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas, avoiding Appalachia or the West Coast.
- Leverage at closing is projected to be just above 2x in a maximum redemption scenario, with a long-term target of below 2x.
- Undeveloped inventory is monetized through capital-light methods like carried interest, promotes, overrides, or acreage sales, rather than non-op drilling, generating effectively infinite returns without capital risk.
Sentiment
Score: 8
Explanation: The filing presents a highly confident and well-articulated strategy for a differentiated business model, backed by strong financing and a clear growth path. The management team expresses strong conviction in their ability to execute and deliver stable shareholder returns, despite acknowledging regulatory timelines and potential redemption scenarios.
Positives
- The DeSPAC transaction is fully funded with over $200 million in committed equity capital, ensuring a high probability of closing.
- Strong institutional investor support, including a $125 million PIPE from JPM Investment Management and participation from an oil and gas major, validates the business model.
- The differentiated 'pure PDP optimization' business model avoids drilling risk and significant capital expenditures, focusing on predictable cash flows.
- A stable, fixed annual dividend of $1.35 is planned, with management expressing high confidence in its maintenance through 2027.
- A substantial M&A opportunity, with a $1.4 billion active backlog and a $75 billion broader market, provides a clear path for future growth and potential dividend increases.
- The company leverages advanced technology, including AI and LLMs, to empower field staff, optimize operations, and drive cost efficiencies.
- The management team possesses extensive experience in PDP-focused operations and M&A, with a proven track record of successful asset optimization.
- A capital-light strategy for monetizing undeveloped inventory generates returns without incurring capital risk, further enhancing profitability.
Negatives
- The DeSPAC completion timeline is subject to SEC review and potential delays due to a 'shutdown,' possibly extending into January 2026.
- Leverage at closing could be 'just above 2x' in a maximum contractual redemption scenario, although the long-term target is below 2x.
- Significant dividend growth beyond the initial $1.35 is contingent on successful execution of the M&A strategy.
Risks
- Changes in business, market, financial, political, and legal conditions could impact performance.
- The inability to successfully or timely consummate the proposed business combination, including delays in regulatory approvals or unanticipated conditions, could adversely affect Presidio or the expected benefits.
- Failure to realize the anticipated benefits of the proposed business combination due which may be affected by competition, the ability to grow profitably, maintain key relationships, or retain management and key employees.
- Uncertainty of the projected financial information with respect to PIH or Presidio.
- Risks related to PIH's current growth strategy.
- The occurrence of any event, change, or other circumstances that could give rise to the termination of any definitive agreements with respect to the proposed business combination.
- The outcome of any legal proceedings that may be instituted against any of the parties to the potential business combination.
- Changes to the proposed structure of the proposed business combination that may be required or appropriate as a result of applicable laws or regulations or as a condition to obtaining regulatory approval.
- Risks that PIH or Presidio may not achieve their expectations.
- The ability to meet stock exchange listing standards following the proposed business combination.
- The risk that the proposed business combination disrupts the current plans and operations of PIH.
- Costs related to the potential business combination.
- Changes in laws and regulations.
- Risks related to the domestication of EQV as a Delaware corporation.
- Risks related to Presidio's ability to pay expected dividends.
- The extent of participation in rollover agreements.
- The amount of redemption requests made by EQV's public equity holders.
- The ability of EQV or Presidio to issue equity or equity-linked securities or issue debt securities or enter into debt financing arrangements in connection with the proposed business combination or in the future.
Future Outlook
The company anticipates completing its DeSPAC by year-end 2025 or January 2026, establishing a public entity focused on PDP optimization. It projects significant M&A activity, with $200 million in year one, $300 million in year two, and $400 million in year three, which is expected to increase the annual dividend from $1.35 to $2.77. The initial $1.35 dividend is expected to be stable through 2027.
Management Comments
- "What Chris and I were really excited about to begin in 2017 was a differentiated oil and gas model that we think has a really compelling business model, and we’ve operated as a successful private company since." Will Ulrich (Presidio Co-CEO)
- "EQV’s sole focus, historically, has been to provide institutions, high net worth family offices, a kind of direct access to this high yielding PDP asset class in a pretty efficient structure on the private side." Jerry Silvey (EQV CEO)
- "I was excited to join these guys taking the company public, following what’s more of a pure PDP strategy without any reinvestment, which I’m sure we’ll get into later, was an exciting opportunity." John Brawley (Presidio CFO)
- "We’ve announced this deal with well over 200 million of committed equity capital. And so we’ve structured it, really, as a kind of fully funded deal, even in a very, I’ll call it draconian trust redemption scenario." Jerry Silvey (EQV CEO)
- "We shift over to the 100% PDP optimization strategy, which is effectively a new asset class that I think is probably more comparable to the mineral guys in the sense that it does not have that reinvestment risk or the capex requirement." Will Ulrich (Presidio Co-CEO)
- "It truly was, truly is a different company. We’ve all been part of development companies... But I can tell you from a guy that’s been doing this for 30 years now, if you’re pushing drilling rigs, you’re not doing what we’re doing." Chris Hammack (Presidio Co-CEO)
- "We really do think of this as kind of a widget making business, right, and the fact that when you focus on margins, right, really what that margin is, and optimizing that margin, our widgets happen to be oil and gas." Chris Hammack (Presidio Co-CEO)
- "Our strategy is to be a company that is a producing oil and gas royalty company. The only difference is we’re able to affect the outcome of the field and actually generate alpha from what we do." John Brawley (Presidio CFO)
- "We’ve built a model with an expected dollar thirty-five dividend that’s meant to be stable -not variable. It’s going to be a fixed dividend. And we’ve built it with our hedge profile, with our decline profile that through 2027 we believe and expect that that will be stable through that period with great confidence." John Brawley (Presidio CFO)
- "The overarching size of the pie here is huge... There’s also a broader number, which is 75 billion. That’s the size of the assets that are currently owned by private equity firms that will be looking to divest those assets over the coming years." Will Ulrich (Presidio Co-CEO)
- "We do not intend to follow a non-op drilling program where we spend capex. We will do it in ways that do not require the spend of capital—carried working interest, overrides, sale of acreage—not taking on the opportunities." John Brawley (Presidio CFO)
Industry Context
The E&P industry is currently characterized by a bifurcation between companies focused on growth and new development, and those concentrating on Proved Developed Producing (PDP) assets. Presidio aims to occupy a unique 'white space' within this landscape by pursuing a pure PDP optimization model, which is distinct from many PDP-focused peers that still engage in some level of development or drilling risk. This model is compared to mineral companies due to its low capital intensity but differentiates itself through active operational management and optimization. The market is experiencing an acceleration of PDP asset divestitures from private equity firms, creating a substantial M&A opportunity that Presidio is positioned to capitalize on.
Comparison to Industry Standards
- Presidio's '100% PDP optimization strategy' is a differentiated business model, as it explicitly avoids drilling risk and significant capital expenditures for new development, unlike many E&P companies.
- Unlike some PDP-focused peers, such as Diversified Energy Company (which acquired John Brawley's previous firm, Maverick Natural Resources, a PDP-focused company that eventually started drilling), Presidio commits to a pure PDP strategy without reinvestment in new wells.
- The business model is compared to 'mineral guys' due to its absence of reinvestment risk and capex requirements, but Presidio actively manages and optimizes assets to generate 'alpha,' unlike passive mineral owners.
- The company's stated 3% capital reinvestment rate is exceptionally low, highlighting its commitment to a capital-light model compared to typical E&P industry standards.
- Presidio's approach to monetizing undeveloped inventory through capital-light methods (carried interest, overrides, acreage sales) contrasts with traditional non-operated drilling programs that require capital spend, as seen in some industry peers.
Management Changes
| Role | Previous Person | New Person | Effective Date | Reason |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| CFO | NA | John Brawley | May 2025 | Joined Presidio to help take the company public, bringing extensive experience in PDP-focused operations and M&A. |
Corporate Governance
| Change Type | Description | Effective Date | Impact Assessment |
|---|---|---|---|
| Board Representation | EQV Ventures will have a position on the board of the combined public entity. | Upon DeSPAC completion | Ensures alignment of interests and active participation from EQV in strategic decisions and partnership opportunities. |
Related Party Transactions
- EQV Ventures is contributing existing assets and rolling all equity into the combined Presidio PubCo Inc. as part of the DeSPAC transaction.
Stakeholder Impact
- Shareholders are expected to benefit from a stable, fixed annual dividend ($1.35, potentially growing to $2.77 with M&A), a differentiated business model with low capital risk, and potential for long-term equity growth.
- Employees, particularly field staff, will be empowered with tools, analytics, and incentives to manage wells as small businesses, fostering a 'servant leadership' culture.
- Creditors will benefit from debt requirements for hedging that provide stability, and a target leverage ratio below 2x indicates prudent financial management.
- Potential acquisition targets (sellers) will find Presidio to be an active buyer for PDP assets, especially from private equity firms looking to divest.
Next Steps
- The SEC is expected to resume its review of the S-4 filing post-shutdown.
- Completion of the DeSPAC transaction is anticipated by year-end 2025 or January 2026.
- The company plans to grow its RBL facility to support future acquisitions.
- Execute projected M&A of $200 million in year 1, $300 million in year 2, and $400 million in year 3 as a public company.
- Continue optimizing acquired assets to expand margins, cut costs, and enhance production.
- Maintain a stable $1.35 annual dividend through 2027, with potential increases from M&A activity.
Key Dates
| Date | Description |
|---|---|
| 2017 | Presidio (PIH) started its business operations. |
| 2018 | Presidio made acquisitions that built the basis of its current assets. |
| 2019 | Presidio made acquisitions that built the basis of its current assets. |
| 2020 | Presidio made acquisitions that built the basis of its current assets. |
| March 2025 | Maverick Natural Resources, John Brawley's previous firm, was sold to Diversified Energy Company for $1.3 billion. |
| March 31, 2025 | EQV's annual report on Form 10-K was filed with the SEC. |
| May 2025 | John Brawley joined Presidio as CFO. |
| September 8, 2025 | The registration statement on Form S-4 was originally filed with the SEC by Presidio and PIH. |
| October 3, 2025 | The most recent updated version of the S-4 filing was submitted to the SEC. |
| October 6, 2025 | Date of the KeyBanc Hosted Fireside Chat with Presidio Petroleum and the filing of this communication. |
| December 2025 | Anticipated completion of the DeSPAC transaction. |
| January 2026 | Potential completion of the DeSPAC transaction if delayed by SEC review. |
| Through 2027 | Expected period for maintaining the stable $1.35 annual dividend. |
Recommendation
strong buyThe company presents a compelling and differentiated investment thesis with its pure PDP optimization strategy, offering predictable cash flows and a stable, high dividend yield. The DeSPAC is fully funded with strong institutional backing, and the management team has a proven track record and a clear, actionable plan for accretive M&A growth. The low capital intensity, robust hedging strategy, and focus on operational alpha generation mitigate typical E&P risks, making it an attractive proposition for income-focused and long-term investors.
Keywords
Oil and Gas, E&P, PDP, Proved Developed Producing, DeSPAC, Acquisition, Optimization, Cash Flow, Dividend, Energy, Mid-Continent, SEC Filing, Financial Reporting, Corporate Governance, Risk Management, Strategic Business Analysis, Presidio, EQV Ventures, KeyBanc
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